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	<title>Comments on: A Message From Bahl, His Daughter, and Man Who Swayed Jury</title>
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	<description>Endless Pondering</description>
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		<title>By: Shawn Maldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Maldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kari,

Sorry buddy. I will see you soon. I just ran accross this and had to leave a note: 

I AM REMINDED WHY I WANT TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kari,</p>
<p>Sorry buddy. I will see you soon. I just ran accross this and had to leave a note: </p>
<p>I AM REMINDED WHY I WANT TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL!</p>
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		<title>By: I can hear&#8230;.and I&#8217;m highly verbal&#8230; &#171; Midlife And Treachery</title>
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		<dc:creator>I can hear&#8230;.and I&#8217;m highly verbal&#8230; &#171; Midlife And Treachery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 22nd, 2007 at 8:42 am (Uncategorized)  I have no idea what it&#8217;s like to be Deaf and incommunicado in jail for four days&#8230;but I know it would scare the **** out of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 22nd, 2007 at 8:42 am (Uncategorized)  I have no idea what it&#8217;s like to be Deaf and incommunicado in jail for four days&#8230;but I know it would scare the **** out of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stanelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cops kicked Mr. Bahl in the head.  This whole story kicks me in the gut with shock!! Such injustice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cops kicked Mr. Bahl in the head.  This whole story kicks me in the gut with shock!! Such injustice!</p>
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		<title>By: Juror</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Bahl
Let me first say that I completely understand your feelings on this entire matter.  I cannot begin to fully understand what you and your family have been going through over the past year.

That being said, I would like to address some of the comments you have made below.

First, I would appreciate not being referred to as the â€œjuror who swayed the jurorâ€.  Although my arguments certainly must have had some influence on the other jurors, there was another that had the same opinions as I from the get go.  I volunteered to be the presiding juror because I felt I would do a good job of making sure that everyone had a say and that we focused on what we were asked to rule on, not so that I would have any extra power to influence the ruling.

As far as â€œignoringâ€ or â€œnot rememberingâ€ your fatherâ€™s testimony about his pain, that is not true.  His pain was discussed at length, and certainly considered as a reason why he pulled away from the officerâ€™s restraint.  However, the testimony that we recalled was that his response for pulling away was to write (thereby attempting to take control of the process).  If your father would have responded that he pulled away as a reaction to the severe pain that would have been different.  Perhaps that was solely the reason for his pulling away and it was lost in the translation, but I couldnâ€™t in good faith use that possibility in the ruling.

Although I did learn a lot about ASL from this trial, it was very new to me.  It was pretty clear that there were complications in the translation.  I discussed various aspects of this with your fatherâ€™s civil attorney after the trial in order to help future trials involving deaf individuals.  Hopefully our discussion will help.  If there was some testimony that wasnâ€™t translated accurately, then that is very unfortunate.  However, that possibility could not be taken into consideration when ruling in my opinion.  As a jury member, we cannot ask questions, request clarification, or suggest anything as far as the translation is concerned.  If there was something lost in the translation I believe that would be the responsibility of his council to clear up during the trial.

Again, I (and I think all of the jurors) sympathize with your father for going through what he went through.  What happened outside that care was very unfortunate, but we were not tasked with judging those actions by the officers.  What I have heard happened in the jail sounds horrible, but this was unknown to us at that time and I believe should be dealt with separately from your fatherâ€™s obstruction of legal process charge.  My comments on Mischaâ€™s blog have been made because I understand that there are lot of people that care about your father and this situation, and I was hoping to lend insight as to why we ruled the way we did.  I am still confident that given the testimony, and the law, that our verdict was correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Bahl<br />
Let me first say that I completely understand your feelings on this entire matter.  I cannot begin to fully understand what you and your family have been going through over the past year.</p>
<p>That being said, I would like to address some of the comments you have made below.</p>
<p>First, I would appreciate not being referred to as the â€œjuror who swayed the jurorâ€.  Although my arguments certainly must have had some influence on the other jurors, there was another that had the same opinions as I from the get go.  I volunteered to be the presiding juror because I felt I would do a good job of making sure that everyone had a say and that we focused on what we were asked to rule on, not so that I would have any extra power to influence the ruling.</p>
<p>As far as â€œignoringâ€ or â€œnot rememberingâ€ your fatherâ€™s testimony about his pain, that is not true.  His pain was discussed at length, and certainly considered as a reason why he pulled away from the officerâ€™s restraint.  However, the testimony that we recalled was that his response for pulling away was to write (thereby attempting to take control of the process).  If your father would have responded that he pulled away as a reaction to the severe pain that would have been different.  Perhaps that was solely the reason for his pulling away and it was lost in the translation, but I couldnâ€™t in good faith use that possibility in the ruling.</p>
<p>Although I did learn a lot about ASL from this trial, it was very new to me.  It was pretty clear that there were complications in the translation.  I discussed various aspects of this with your fatherâ€™s civil attorney after the trial in order to help future trials involving deaf individuals.  Hopefully our discussion will help.  If there was some testimony that wasnâ€™t translated accurately, then that is very unfortunate.  However, that possibility could not be taken into consideration when ruling in my opinion.  As a jury member, we cannot ask questions, request clarification, or suggest anything as far as the translation is concerned.  If there was something lost in the translation I believe that would be the responsibility of his council to clear up during the trial.</p>
<p>Again, I (and I think all of the jurors) sympathize with your father for going through what he went through.  What happened outside that care was very unfortunate, but we were not tasked with judging those actions by the officers.  What I have heard happened in the jail sounds horrible, but this was unknown to us at that time and I believe should be dealt with separately from your fatherâ€™s obstruction of legal process charge.  My comments on Mischaâ€™s blog have been made because I understand that there are lot of people that care about your father and this situation, and I was hoping to lend insight as to why we ruled the way we did.  I am still confident that given the testimony, and the law, that our verdict was correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a Doug Bahl DEFENSE FUND???

I'd gladly contribute.  I think $778 could be raised OVERNIGHT.  If Bahl wants to launch a civil suit, it could be costly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a Doug Bahl DEFENSE FUND???</p>
<p>I&#8217;d gladly contribute.  I think $778 could be raised OVERNIGHT.  If Bahl wants to launch a civil suit, it could be costly.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard Roehm -- Huh?  explain this more please. I hope you are not hallucinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Roehm &#8212; Huh?  explain this more please. I hope you are not hallucinating.</p>
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		<title>By: uh, oh</title>
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		<dc:creator>uh, oh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to read wcco artical,

well, again, those witnesses might be friends of police.   be aware of a friend of a friend... you know whenever you whisper in the person's ear, and person whisper to another person.. then that another person whisper to different person, then that different person come to you and whisper back, and the comment you whisper in came out entirely different!  So, I do not buy your story.  

Again, the interpreters at court seems to be set up by the court, so that the court could get away from the serious legal issue.  Not only Bahl, but his hearing daughter complained about the interpreters not clear in two ways. sounds fishy to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to read wcco artical,</p>
<p>well, again, those witnesses might be friends of police.   be aware of a friend of a friend&#8230; you know whenever you whisper in the person&#8217;s ear, and person whisper to another person.. then that another person whisper to different person, then that different person come to you and whisper back, and the comment you whisper in came out entirely different!  So, I do not buy your story.  </p>
<p>Again, the interpreters at court seems to be set up by the court, so that the court could get away from the serious legal issue.  Not only Bahl, but his hearing daughter complained about the interpreters not clear in two ways. sounds fishy to me.</p>
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		<title>By: read wcco artical</title>
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		<dc:creator>read wcco artical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because I'm sure the civil trial is going to be about changing procedures and not about $$$$$.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because I&#8217;m sure the civil trial is going to be about changing procedures and not about $$$$$.</p>
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		<title>By: read wcco artical</title>
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		<dc:creator>read wcco artical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you go to the wcco web site and read the story it says Bahl grabbed the jacket of the officer make the events happen. Bahl hit and bit the officer THEN he sprayed him.

I also dug a little deeper and spoke to a friend of a friend who was at the court room. There were witnesses that watched and sided with the Police Officers. So you may thing Bahl is nice and not guilty but sounds to me like it points the other way.

As fot no TTY sounds like something to complain about there, but in other stories from news sites it sounded like he was offered it and refused, maybe he did this for the $$$$$$$$, sounds fishy to me. 

Sounds like Bahl brought this on himself.......or maybe wanted to bring it on himself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you go to the wcco web site and read the story it says Bahl grabbed the jacket of the officer make the events happen. Bahl hit and bit the officer THEN he sprayed him.</p>
<p>I also dug a little deeper and spoke to a friend of a friend who was at the court room. There were witnesses that watched and sided with the Police Officers. So you may thing Bahl is nice and not guilty but sounds to me like it points the other way.</p>
<p>As fot no TTY sounds like something to complain about there, but in other stories from news sites it sounded like he was offered it and refused, maybe he did this for the $$$$$$$$, sounds fishy to me. </p>
<p>Sounds like Bahl brought this on himself&#8230;&#8230;.or maybe wanted to bring it on himself!</p>
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		<title>By: kbjensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>kbjensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so sick.  I just am afraid for the future generation.  What will the society see us bunch of pain in the ass community who whines for their needs?  Come on, we are not in the dark age but now we are going back to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so sick.  I just am afraid for the future generation.  What will the society see us bunch of pain in the ass community who whines for their needs?  Come on, we are not in the dark age but now we are going back to that.</p>
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