Comments on: My Story http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/ His Eugenic Language Philosophy Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:45:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Lou http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-2990 Lou Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:20:33 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-2990 I was a substitute teacher in the Horace Mann School for The Deaf for two weeks. The children were not allowed to sign -- I felt badly (and being a non-con-formist) would alow them to sign -- they taught me how to sign "I love you"... I have very fond memories. it wasn't until I saw "A Lesser god" that I appreciated my disobedience. I was a substitute teacher in the Horace Mann School for The Deaf for two weeks. The children were not allowed to sign — I felt badly (and being a non-con-formist) would alow them to sign — they taught me how to sign “I love you”… I have very fond memories. it wasn’t until I saw “A Lesser god” that I appreciated my disobedience.

]]> By: Tar http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-2782 Tar Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:19:51 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-2782 Indeed.. Thank you to show all of us. We need to see this past look like. I really hope that our next generation children to see this and we shouldn't make the same mistake again.. - Tar Indeed.. Thank you to show all of us. We need to see this past look like. I really hope that our next generation children to see this and we shouldn’t make the same mistake again..
- Tar

]]> By: Barb DiGi http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-98 Barb DiGi Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:46:14 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-98 Your story caught my eye along with this powerful photo. Thank you for sharing your sentimental story. I am amused about the contest! We will never see no speech contest in all schools for the deaf. My father who also grew up oral said that schools for the deaf back then were for teaching speech after Clerc's time. Now, there is a growing number of schools for the deaf that are gearing toward bilingual approach but there are more mainstreaming programs where one deaf individual (a solitaire) is becoming too common. What can this be done? My dream is to revist the PL-94 law to make it mandatory that every deaf child in the mainstream has the opportunity to experience ASL environment and peer interaction. IMO, this is worse than oral schools whereas they are able to be acquainted with each other. This photo is definitely unforgettable! Barb Your story caught my eye along with this powerful photo. Thank you for sharing your sentimental story.

I am amused about the contest! We will never see no speech contest in all schools for the deaf. My father who also grew up oral said that schools for the deaf back then were for teaching speech after Clerc’s time.

Now, there is a growing number of schools for the deaf that are gearing toward bilingual approach but there are more mainstreaming programs where one deaf individual (a solitaire) is becoming too common. What can this be done? My dream is to revist the PL-94 law to make it mandatory that every deaf child in the mainstream has the opportunity to experience ASL environment and peer interaction. IMO, this is worse than oral schools whereas they are able to be acquainted with each other.

This photo is definitely unforgettable!

Barb

]]> By: ASL Risen http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-97 ASL Risen Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:18:25 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-97 Wow Shirley!! First thing I want to thank you for standing up strong support your wonderful husband, John NO MATTER WAHT!!! Thank you so much for sharing your story about your life! WOW very interesting! Hugs, Shawn Wow Shirley!! First thing I want to thank you for standing up strong support your wonderful husband, John NO MATTER WAHT!!!

Thank you so much for sharing your story about your life! WOW very interesting!

Hugs, Shawn

]]> By: Dianrez http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-96 Dianrez Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:05:55 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-96 I love old photos, especially those that show a historical time, attitude and event. Those close-ups of the blackboard SAYS IT ALL. It reminded me of the Indian schools that were established by state governments on reservations. White teachers came to these schools to teach the native American children. Immediately they discouraged native talk: <i>"talk like a white man!"</i> was often heard. Native children were made to feel that their family language, their own culture and even their appearance was undesirable. The list of names and marks how many times they were caught using sign language really got to me. I love old photos, especially those that show a historical time, attitude and event. Those close-ups of the blackboard SAYS IT ALL.

It reminded me of the Indian schools that were established by state governments on reservations. White teachers came to these schools to teach the native American children. Immediately they discouraged native talk: “talk like a white man!” was often heard. Native children were made to feel that their family language, their own culture and even their appearance was undesirable.

The list of names and marks how many times they were caught using sign language really got to me.

]]> By: Jodi Walshvelo (Hoffman) http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-95 Jodi Walshvelo (Hoffman) Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:55:07 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-95 Hi Shirley, Its me Jodi, Your son, Clyde's classmate from MSAD, I was looking around for a deaf's right in placing my son to go to austine ( deaf school) in Vermont within this state law sucks big time. we're still fighting our rights. I guess every state's law has different methods. anyways, I see this old picture wow in your times, we sure are spoiled nowdays :) Hi Shirley,
Its me Jodi, Your son, Clyde’s classmate from MSAD, I was looking around for a deaf’s right in placing my son to go to austine ( deaf school) in Vermont within this state law sucks big time. we’re still fighting our rights. I guess every state’s law has different methods. anyways, I see this old picture wow in your times, we sure are spoiled nowdays :)

]]> By: DE http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-94 DE Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:01:19 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-94 Shirley, MY GOSH!!! I have goosebumps looking at these pictures-- "No Signing Contest"... MY GOSH MY GOSH... Pictures are very important to social change. Societal sympathy crested when pictures of the African-American girl attending a de-segregated school was attacked, and the Vietnam War picture with the naked and burned girl running. Perhaps this is it... This is staggering for me. Wow... Shirley- it was great working with you last summer at the protest. I have so much respect for you and your family. Shirley,

MY GOSH!!! I have goosebumps looking at these pictures– “No Signing Contest”… MY GOSH MY GOSH… Pictures are very important to social change. Societal sympathy crested when pictures of the African-American girl attending a de-segregated school was attacked, and the Vietnam War picture with the naked and burned girl running. Perhaps this is it…

This is staggering for me. Wow…

Shirley- it was great working with you last summer at the protest. I have so much respect for you and your family.

]]> By: Katherine http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-93 Katherine Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:57:07 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-93 Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed reading as it is important for people to share their experiences. I did an oral history for one of my classes by interviewing this 2nd generation Deaf professional, who attended this formerly oral deaf school where my late grandma and great uncle were a product of. She suggested me to set up a videotape while I interviewed her and I thought great, it'll be easy. It turns out that a 20 minutes interview on videotape took me hours to translate from ASL to English -- a 10 page paper. Even though ASL is my first language and I am richly immersed into it, I saw how beautiful ASL as a language is and I was proud of this language. What touched me the most about the interview is how this person, like many other deaf children, was forced to wear a speech power button if they are caught signing. It was a culture shock for her because she signs at home. Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed reading as it is important for people to share their experiences.

I did an oral history for one of my classes by interviewing this 2nd generation Deaf professional, who attended this formerly oral deaf school where my late grandma and great uncle were a product of. She suggested me to set up a videotape while I interviewed her and I thought great, it’ll be easy. It turns out that a 20 minutes interview on videotape took me hours to translate from ASL to English — a 10 page paper. Even though ASL is my first language and I am richly immersed into it, I saw how beautiful ASL as a language is and I was proud of this language.

What touched me the most about the interview is how this person, like many other deaf children, was forced to wear a speech power button if they are caught signing. It was a culture shock for her because she signs at home.

]]> By: RLM http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-92 RLM Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:41:20 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-92 Hola Shirley, What a heartache story about your personal experience of being suppressed from using your native language at the school. I definitely understand what you have been going thru your education. Is that the NDSD engaged in the "Combined System" like signing and oral speaking? Or just several classroom teachers impose their personal ideology of what the deaf students ought to communciate? Which class subject you were forbidden from using ASL? Language Arts? English? Where are you in the class picture? Is that you in the dark shirt (black) or the little one with full smile standing next to the teacher? I am kinda curious what do you look like in your younger days. Smile! Robert L. Mason (RLM) Hola Shirley,

What a heartache story about your personal experience of being suppressed from using your native language at the school. I definitely understand what you have been going thru your education. Is that the NDSD engaged in the “Combined System” like signing and oral speaking? Or just several classroom teachers impose their personal ideology of what the deaf students ought to communciate?

Which class subject you were forbidden from using ASL? Language Arts? English?

Where are you in the class picture? Is that you in the dark shirt (black) or the little one with full smile standing next to the teacher? I am kinda curious what do you look like in your younger days. Smile!

Robert L. Mason (RLM)

]]> By: Ella Lentz http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-91 Ella Lentz Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:03:42 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/agbellxinfo/2007/08/28/my-story/#comment-91 Shirley, thanks for sharing your story which is quite similar to mine. It can be hard for many other people--hearing or even Deaf--to realize that even Deaf people from Deaf families did experience Oralism and was also hurt education-wise from it. Yes, Oralism was everywhere, in practically all Deaf schools, even if the Deaf school allowed signing on the playground or in high school (usually Sim-Com). And now, we realize, in spite of increasing recognition of ASL nowadays, Oralism still reigns, which is called neo-Oralism: CI/AVT, mainstreaming, and genetic engineering. Oralism affected and is affecting ALL of Deaf people and our families--Deaf or hearing. Shirley, thanks for sharing your story which is quite similar to mine. It can be hard for many other people–hearing or even Deaf–to realize that even Deaf people from Deaf families did experience Oralism and was also hurt education-wise from it. Yes, Oralism was everywhere, in practically all Deaf schools, even if the Deaf school allowed signing on the playground or in high school (usually Sim-Com). And now, we realize, in spite of increasing recognition of ASL nowadays, Oralism still reigns, which is called neo-Oralism: CI/AVT, mainstreaming, and genetic engineering. Oralism affected and is affecting ALL of Deaf people and our families–Deaf or hearing.

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